chief joseph vann family tree

She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble.

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Half brother of James Fields; Lucy Hicks; Isabel Wolf; Delila Fields; Charles Timberlake and 8 others; Jesse Vann; Delilah Amelia McNair; Joseph Vann; James Vann; Sarah 'Sally' Nicholson (Vann); John Hon John Vann; Robert B. Sometime Young Master Joe and the other boys give me a piece of money and say I worked for it, and I reckon I did for I have to cook five or six times a day. Young Master Joe let us have singing and be baptized if we want to, but I wasn't baptized till after the War.

Do you know what I am going to do? However, the following narrative by the ex-slave, Cornelius Neely Nave, contains correct family relationships. Didn't you never see one of them slidin' beds?

Master went plumb blind after he move back to Webber's Falls and so he move up on de Illinois River, about three miles from de Arkansas, and there old Mistress take de white swelling and die and den he die pretty soon.

Joseph Vann, the husband of Wah li was probably born 1735-1740. Next came the carpenters, yard men, blacksmiths, race-horse men, steamboat men and like that. I'se born across the river in the plantation of old Jim Vann in Webbers Falls.

Vann. Elizabeth Scott; parents of Delilah Vann; married Nancy Brown; parents of Mary b. The colored folks did most of the fiddlin'. His pappy was old Captain "Rich Joe" Vann, and he had been dead ever since long before de War.

Master Thompson brought us from Texas when I was too little to remember about it, and I din't know how long it was before we was all sold to John Harnage, "Marse John" was his pet name and he liked to be called that-a-way. Lucinda Vann tells an unusual story of plantation life from the perspective of a house slave who was born with privileges. Every dollar she make on the track, I give it to Lucy."

Vann had the opportunity to enjoy his mansion for only a few I don't know how old I is; some folks ay I'se ninety-two and some say I must be a hundred.

They was Cherokee Indians.

When the war come they have a big battle away west of us, but I never see any battles. He born at Spring Place, Georgia on February 11, 1798.

He went clean to Louisville, Kentucky, and back. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah.

Soon as you come out of the water you go over there and change clothes. Women came in satin dresses, all dressed up, big combs in their hair, lots of rings and bracelets. Pappa named Charley Nave; mamma's name was Mary Vann before she marry and her papa was Talaka Vann, one of Joe Vann's slave down around Webber's Falls. He jest kept him and he was a good negro after that. When we git to Fort Gibson they was a lot of Negroes there, and they had a camp meeting and I was baptised.

I had a brother named Harry who belonged to the Vann family at Tahlequah. I had a silver dime on it, too, for along time, but I took it off and got me a box of snuff. Another time his officer give him a message; he was on his way to deliver it when the enemy spy him and cry out to stop, but father said he kept on going until he was shot in the leg. Person Interviewed: Betty Robertson Location: Fort Gibson, Oklahoma Age: 93 I was born close to Webbers Falls, in the Canadian District of the Cherokee Nation, in the same year that my pappy was blowed up and killed in the big boat accident that killed my old Master. I lost my land trying to live honest and pay my debts. Everybody had a good time. Then I had clean ward clothes and I had to keep them clean, too! I don't know what dey done it for, only to be mean, and I guess they was drunk. Oh Lord, no.

Everything was kept covered and every hogshead had a lock. They'd cut brush saplings, walk out into the stream ahead of the pen and chase the fish down to the riffle where they'd pick em up. John Rogers, grandson of John Rogers and Elizabeth Emory, in Indian Territory by 1852.

When he get home he call my uncle and ask about what we done all day and tell him what we better do de next day.

When they gave a party in the big house, everything was fine.

Vinita was the closeset town to where I was born; when I get older seem like they call it "the junction" on account the rails cross there, but I never ride on the trains, just stay at home. Old Master had some kind of business in Fort Smith, I think cause he used to ride into dat town about every day on his horse. Young, Mary., "The Cherokee Nation: Mirror of the Republic", (American Quarterly), Vol.

The land was timbered and the oldest children clear the land, or start to do the work while Pappa go back to Tahlequah to get my sick mamma and the rest of the family. Seem like it take a powerful lot of fighting to rid the country of them Rebs.

After a bloody fracas in 1834, Colonel W. N. Bishop established his brother, Absolom Bishop, on the premises and Joseph Vann with his family was driven out to seek shelter over the state line in Tennessee. The impressive house reportedly stood on a plantation of nearly 600 acres which was tended by some 400 black slaves "Rich Joe" Vann owned. A military news release said the service members came from Florida, Texas, Missouri, California, North Carolina, Alabama and New Jersey. We had meat, bread, rice, potatoes and plenty of fish and chicken.

A brother was owned by another Vann Family in Tahlequah. The spring time give us plenty of green corn and beans too. I couldnt buy anything in slavery time, so I jest give the piece of money to the Vann children.

The colored folks did most of the fiddlin'. Lord have mercy I'll say they was. Young Master never whip his slaves, but if they dont mind good he sell them off sometimes. We all come back to de old place and find de negro cabins and barns burned down and de fences all gone and de field in crab grass and cockleburs. His britches was all muddy and tore where de hounds had cut him up in de legs when he clumb a tree in de bottoms. In 1842, 35 slaves of Joseph Vann, Lewis Ross, and other wealthy Cherokees at Webbers Falls, fled in a futile attempt to escape to Mexico, but were quickly recaptured by a Cherokee possee.

I remember when the steamboats went up and down the river.

My father was born in Tahlequah just about where the colored church stands on Depot Hill. De furniture is all gone, and some said de soldiers burned it up for firewood. Clarinda Vann and my aunt Maria turned the keys to the vault and commissary. He wanted people to know he was able to dress his slaves in fine clothes. They had a big big plantation down by the river and they was rich.

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Little hog, big hog, didn't make no difference. Indians wouldn't allow their slaves to take their husband's name. I've heard em tell of rich Joe Vann. There Vann constructed a replica of his lost Georgia mansion.

Joseph and Wah-li were the parents of three children James, Jennie, and Nancy.

The comfort accorded house slaves is in stark contrast to the lives of the field slaves described in other interviews. Mammy got a wagon and we traveled around a few days to go to Fort Gibson.

My pappy was a kind of a boss of the Negroes that run the boat, and they all belong to old Master Joe.

Its got a buckeye and a lead bullet in it. Had sacks and sacks of money. Maybe old Master Joe Vann was harder, I don't know, but that was before my time. I know he is right, too. Pappy wanted to go back to his mother when the War was over the slaves was freed. They'd sell 'em to folks at picnics and barbecues. Old Master Joe had a mighty big farm and several families of Negroes, and he was a powerful rich man. Dat was de time dat was the hardest and everything was dark and confusion.

He took us back to Texas right down near where I was born at Bellview.

Joseph, 11 years old, was in the room when his father, James, was murdered, in Buffingtons Tavern in 1809 near the site of the family-owned ferry.

Master's name was Joe Sheppard, and he was a Cherokee Indian.

There was seats all around for folks to watch them dance.

Although Lucinda Vann was owned by Jim Vann, she told about the death of "Rich Joe" Vann and the recovery of one of his arms, following the deadly explosion on his steamboat, the Lucy Walker. He said that those troops burned the Vann home during their pillage. Mistress try to get de man to tell her who de negro belong to so she can buy him, but de man say he can't sell him and he take him on back to Texas wid a chain around his two ankles. They spun the cottons and wool, weaved it and made cloth.

Chief Joseph David VANNfamily tree Parents John Joseph 'Indian Trader' Cherokee Its got a buokeys and a lead bullet in it. I'se born right in my master and missus bed. She passed away after 1851.

De clothes wasn't no worry neither. The big House was a double log wid a big hall and a stone chimney but no porches, wid two rooms at each end, one top side of de other. She won me lots of money, Black Hock did, and I kept it in the Savings Bank in Tahlequah. After being evicted from his father's mansion home "Diamond Hill" in 1834, Joseph moved his large family (he had two wives) and business operations to Tennessee, where he established a large plantation on the Tennessee River near the mouth of Ooltewah Creek that became the center of a settlement called Vann's Town (later the site of Harrison, Tennessee).

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Old Master bought de cotton in Ft. Smith, because he didn't raise no cotton, but he had a few sheep and we had wool mix for winter. They got over in the Creek country and stood off the Cherokee officers that went to git them, but pretty soon they give up and come home. They'd bring whole wagon loads of hams, chickens and cake and pie.

My mother died when I'se small and my father married Delia Vann. Johnson Thompson's father had been owned by "Rich Joe" Vann. After the old time rich folks die, them that had their money buried, they com back and haunt the places where it is. Dey kept after me about a year, but I didn't go anyways. He done already sold 'em to a man and it was dat man was waiting for de trader. Young Master Vann never very hard on us and he never whupped us, and old Mistress was a widow woman and a good Christian and always kind. We went down to the river for baptizings.

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I never did have much of a job, jest tending de calves mostly. Then I had clean warm clothes and I had to keep them clean too! The commissary was full of everyting good to eat.

Lots of the slave children didn't ever learn to read or write. He was called by his contemporaries "Rich Joe" and many legends of his wealth ware still told among the Cherokees. I was afraid I would get cheated out of it cause I can't figure and read, so I tell old Master about it and he bought it off'n me.

All the colored folks lined up and the overseer he tell them what they must do that day. My mother was seamstress. During their pursuit of the escaped Negroes, the Cherokee Militia discovered the bodies of the two slave bounty hunters. Some of the Indian families was Joe Dirt Eater, Six Killer (some of the Six Killers live a few miles SE of Afton at this time, 1938), Chewey Noi, and Gus Buffington. Joseph and his sister Mary were children of James Vann and Nannie Brown, both mixed-blood Cherokees. I had the money Black Hock had won on the track. Indians made us keep our master's name. I thought it was mighty big and fine. The Familytree Heritage Library provides our family members with the means to share and exchange family genealogy information, including family records,

The Cherokees living in the southeastern United States copied many of the traditions and practices of their white neighborsincluding the ownership of fellow humans as slaves.

Christmas lasted a whole month. He went clean to Louisville, Kentucky and back.

He had charge of all Master Chism's and Master Vann's race horses.

When we wanted to go anywhere we always got a horse, we never walked. There was music, fine music. Marster never whipped no one.

Marster had a little race horse called "Black Hock" She was all jet black, excepting three white feet and her stump of a tail.

McFadden, Marguerite, "The Saga of 'Rich Joe' Vann", Chronicles of Oklahoma, Vol. One time we sold one hundred hogs on the foot. She was raised up at dat mill, but she was borned in Tennessee before dey come out to de nation. There was great big wooden scaffolds.

Lots of soldiers around all the time though. The slave cabins was in a row, and we lived in one of them. WebJoseph Harold Vann, born 31 May 1920 in Canton Texas, passed away on 24 December 2003 in Fort Worth Texas.

He and Master took race horses down the river, away off and they'd come back with sacks of money that them horses won in the races.

Young Master never whip his slaves, but if they don't mind good he sell them off sometimes.

He never seen them neither.

Everybody had a good time on old Jim Vann's plantation. There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything. Because I'se so little, Missus Jennie took me into the Big house and raised me. There'd be races and people would have things what they was sellin' like moccasins and beads. I'se proud anyway of my Vann name. Then we all have big dinner, white folks in the big house, colored folks in their cabins. We went down to the river for baptizings. And we learned some things about religion from an old colored preacher named Tom Vann.

I went to the missionary Baptist church where Marster and Missus went.

It look lots of clothes for all them slaves. He located at Webbers Falls on the Arkansas River and operated a line of steamboats on the Arkansas, Mississippi, and Ohio Rivers. Chief Crazy James Vann James Clement Vann) Vann, Ii, <<Private>> Vann, Ii.

In the morning we got up early, made a fire, and made a big pot of coffee. Don't know where the other one lived.

Old Master Joe was a big man in the Cherokees, I hear, and was good to his Negroes before I was born. We had a good song I remember.

The low class work in the fields.

Dey was for bad winter only. I remember that home after the war brought my pappa back home. When they wanted something put away they say, "Clarinda, come put this in the vault." Run it to the bank!" Missus Jenni lived in a big house in Webbers Falls. Webchief joseph vann family tree.

We had about twenty calves and I would take dem out and graze-em while some grown-up negro was grazing de cows so as to keep de cows milk.

He and Master took race horses down the river, away off and they'd come back with sacks of money that them horses won in the races. My father he say, "Now chillun, don't get smart; you just be still and listen, rich folks tryin tell us something" They come and call you, say so much money buried, tell you where it is, say it's yours, you come and get it.

Perdue, Theda, "The Conflict Within: The Cherokee Power Structure and Removal," Georgia Historical Quarterly, 73 (Fall, 1989), pp. Dey didn't let us have much enjoyment.

A four mule team was hitched to the wagon and for five weeks we was on the road from Texas finally getting to grandma Brewer's at Fort Gibson. My mother was born way back in the hills of the old Flint district of the Cherokee Nation; just about where Scraper Oklahoma is now. My parents are both dead now--seems like fifty, maybe sixty year ago.

Poor old master and mistress only lived a few years after de War.

Weba train behind schedule star stable.

Everything was stripedy cause Mammy like to make it fancy. Sometimes Joe bring other wife to visit Missus Jennie.

Of course, all slaves were officially freed during the Civil War.

Mammy died in Texas, and when we left Rusk County after the Civil War, pappy took us children to the graveyard.

In 1837 ptior to the main Cherokee Removal, he transported a few hundred Cherokee men, women, children, slaves and horses aboard a flotilla of flat boats to Webber's Falls on the Arkansas River in Indian Territory. And we had corn bread and cakes baked every day.

Mammy and pappy belong to W.P.

There was a house yonder where was dry clothes, blankets, everything.

One night a runaway negro come across form Texas and he had de blood hounds after him. He didn't tell us children much about the War, except he said one time that he was in the Battle of Honey Springs in 1863 down near Elk Creek south of Fort Gibson. Den old Master get three wagons and ox teams and take us all way down on Red River in de Choctaw Nation. We didn't suffer, we had plenty to eat. He had run off after he was sold and joined de North army and discharged at Fort Scoot in Kansas, and he said lots of freedmen was living close to each other up by Coffeyville in the Coo-ee-scoo-wee District.

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Mammy was the house girl and she weaved the cloth and my Aunt Tilda dyed the cloth with indigo, leaving her hands blue looking most of the time. Malone, Henry Thompson, Cherokees of the Old South: A People in Transition, University of Georgia Press, (1956), ISBN 0670034207. Birth 11 Feb 1765 - Spring Place, Murray, Georgia, United States. Sometimes just white folks danced; sometimes just the black folks. Numerous others had previously gone to Oklahoma when their masters voluntarily relocated. Thompson, mixed blood Cherokee Indian, but before that pappy had been owned by three different master; one was the Rich Joe Vann who lived down at Webber Falls and another was Chief Lowery of the Cherokees. It look lots of clothes for all them slaves.

Two pounds of hog meat sold for a nickel. All my children was from the first marriage: Thomas, Dora, Charley, Marie, Opal, William, Arthur, Margaret, Thadral and Hubbard. A few years of her life were also quite possibly spent among Seminoles during part of that time, although her memory of the death of Joseph "Rich Joe" Vann is clearly a part of Cherokee history. We even had brown sugar and cane molasses most of de time before de War, sometimes coffee, too. She bossed all the other colored women and see that they sew it right. 29 November 2015. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/black-genealogy/slave-narrative-of-b - Last updated on Aug 24th, 2012, VANN SLAVES REMEMBER 2003 By Herman McDaniel Murray County Museum. My uncle used to baptize 'em.

Dey would come up in a bunch of about nine men on horses and look at all our passes, and if a negro didn't have no pass dey wore him out good and made him go home. One and a half years after the war we all come back to the old plantation. Some had been in a big run-away and had been brung back, and wasnt so good, so he keep them on the boat all the time mostly. The women dressed in whtie, if they had a white dress to wear. Don't know much about him. They got over in the Creak country and stood off the Cherokee officers that went to git them, but pretty soon they give up and come home. Do you know what I am going to do? I been a good Christian ever since I was baptized, but I keep a little charm here on my neck anyways to keep me from having the nose bleed. Marster and missus never allowed chillun to meddle in the big folks business.

After it was wove they dyed it all colors, blue, brown, purple, red, yellow. Joseph also inherited his father's gold and deposited over $200,000 in gold in a bank in Tennessee. They'd come to the door like this, "sh.." and go out quick again. They never sent us anywhere with a cotton dress. 5, Special Issue: American Culture and the American Frontier (Winter, 1981), pp. I don't remember much about my pappy's mother; but I remember she would milk for a man named Columbus Balreade and she went to prayer meeting every Wednesday night.

Old Master Joe had a big steam boat he called the Lucy Walker, and he run it up and down the Arkansas and the Mississippi and the Ohio river, old Mistress say. In winter white folks danced in the parlor of the big house; in summer they danced on a platform under a great big brush arbor. There were some Cherokee slaves that were taken to Mexico, however, she makes vivid references to Seminole leaders John Horse, and Wild Cat. The following slave narratives all mention the Vanns.

The first time I married was to Clara Nevens, and I wore checked wool pants, and a blue striped cotton shirt.

My mammy was a Crossland Negro before she come to belong to Master Joe and marry my pappy, and I think she come wid old Mistress and belong to her. I wore loom cloth clothes, dyed in copperas what the old Negro women and the old Cherokee women made.

There was a bugler and someone called the dances.

"Rich Joe" owned a large plantation on the Tennessee River near the mouth of the Ooltewah Creek. Old Mistress had inherited some property from her pappy and dey had de slave money and when dey turned everything into good money after de War dat stuff only come to about six thousand dollars in good money, she told me. He used to take us to where Hyge Park is and we'd all go fishin'.

She had some land close to Catoosa and some down on Greenleaf Creek.

Dey called young Mr. Joe "Little Joe Vann" even after he was grown on account of when he was a little boy before his pappy was killed.

My husband didn't give me nothing.

I never forget when they sold off some more negroes at de same time, too and put dem all in a pen for de trader to come and look at.

Upon being brought to Fort Gibson, five slaves were held to stand trial for murdering the two bounty hunters.

He come from across the water when he was a little boy, and was grown when old Master Joseph Vann bought him, so he never did learn to talk much Cherokee. Connect to the World Family Tree to find out, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Vann, Chief James Clement Ii Vann, Elizabeth (Go-sa-du-i-sga) Vann (born Thornton), Sarah "sallie" Vann Nicholson Or Buzzard Trapper (born Vann), Feb 11 1798 - Spring Place, Georgia, Old Cherokee Nation East, United States, Oct 23 1844 - Louisville, Jefferson, Kentucky, United States, Chief James Vann, Ii, Nannie Vann (born Brown), Feb 11 1798 - Spring Place, Murray, Georgia, United States. Some of the old chief's names was Gopher John, John Hawk and Wild Cat. We had fine satin dresses, great big combs for our hair, great big gold locket, double earrings we never wore cotton except when we worked. The place was all woods, and the Cherokees and the soldiers all come down to see the baptising. Young Master Vann never very hard on us and he never whupped us, and ole Mistress was a widow woman and a good Christian and always kind. Snow on the ground and the water was muddy and all full of pieces of ice. Everybody had plenty to eat and plenty to throw away.

He'd take us and enjoy us, you know. Mother WahLi Wa-Wli They brought it home and my granmother knew it was Joe's.

Husband of Polly Vann and Jennie Vann We take a big pot to fry fish in and we'd all eat till we nearly bust.

And dishes, they had rows and rows of china dishes; big blue platters that would hold a whole turkey. Everybody laugh and was happy. Yes I was! Them Pins was after Master all de time for a while at de first of de War, and he was afraid to ride into Ft. Smith much.

Mammy say they was lots of excitement on old Masters place and all the Negroes mighty scared, but he didnt sell my pappy off. I spent happy days on the Harnage plantation going squirrel hunting with the master---he was always riding, while I run along and throw rocks in the trees to scare the squirrels so's Marse John could get the aim on them; pick a little cotton and put it in somebody's hamper (basket) and run races with other colored boys to see who would get to saddle the masters horse, while the master would stand laughing by the gate to see which boy won the race. I had one brother and one sister sold when I was little and I dont remember the names.

Christmas lasted a whole month. Young Joseph was his father's favorite child and primary recipient of his father's estate and wealth. She come up and put her nose on your just like this---nibble nibble, nibble. They get something they need too.